It's been a good while since I've read, so I'm not sure if there is fudge factors going on for 'could be canonical'

See cf my Halloween 5+1 and Gimli possibly reacting wrong/Steve being the wrong Elf. That's on me, Steve's more JRR focused than I am. (I can learn a bit about baseball for Steve, I can't pause when the Muse strikes to reread That Much.)