Fanfic recs for people who don't know the fandom

[melannen]

I have been going back through my AO3 history, trying to pull out the all-time favorite fics I want to be able to go back to easily, and it’s occurring to me that a disproportionate number are in fandoms where I don’t know the canon (some of them are one of the only stories I’ve read in that fandom.)

Which got me curious: What makes a fanfic a good story for someone who doesn’t know the fandom it’s in?

Of course there are different reasons why you might be recommending a story to someone who doesn’t know the canon - maybe they just want good fanfic and they’ve said they’re fine with reading outside their fandoms; maybe you are trying to lure them into the fandom; maybe they are just starting on the canon and want stories that won’t spoil them but will draw them in. And each of those (and every individual) would have different needs.

But I feel like maybe we can tease out certain things that are often good.

For example, I often see people recommending complete/setting-swap AUs (where almost nothing is the same except the characters) in this situation - I guess on the idea that since they don’t have much to do with canon, they don’t need as much canon knowledge. But as a reader, lately I’ve often found them particularly bad starting points when I don’t know canon, because a good setting-swap AU often does rely heavily on the reader knowing at least the characters: part of the pleasure is seeing that minor character slotted into a role you never would have guessed, but is perfect; or seeing what they’re going to do with that one plot point in the new setting; or trusting that something that seems bad is going to come out a certain way because that’s how it is in canon. And so a lot of the story relies on the reader already knowing canon, and a lot of the pleasure isn’t there if they don’t. These can be really good for people who are already basically familiar with the characters but want to avoid major spoilers, though.

On the other hand, a lot of the stories I’ve loved without knowing the fandom (or that served to pull me into a new fandom) are canon-divergence AUs, especially ones where the divergence is before canon started (characters are starting from different places, or that One Thing That Happened happened differently, or somebody was secretly an elf all along, or things like that.) You’d think these are also very reliant on the reader knowing the original canon, but often the author is at pains to work out in detail why certain things happen in certain ways as a result of their divergence, so they do a good job at introducing things and characters one at a time and explaining why things are happening.

On the gripping hand, fix-it canon divergence AUs tend to start with the premise that the reader already knows what needs fixing and agrees that it should be fixed, so they tend not to work as well either.

Some other things that I think tend to be more likely to work for readers outside the fandom include:

• Extremely formulaic tropes - being a fan of the formula can carry you past not knowing things
• Complete AUs that have become standard within the fandom - for example, if so much of the fandom is modern/mundane AUs that nobody tags it anymore - because that’s often fandom writing to itself rather than to canon, and it’s not generally about being clever within the AU the way stand-alone setting swaps are.
• Longfic in juggernaut pairings - anything that hits a certain level of popularity probably has a lot of generically appealing characteristics, and also after a certain point, fandom is often writing to itself rather than writing to canon here too. (A2G fic is the sweet spot of these three.)
• Crossovers of the kind where two groups of characters from different canons meet up - they tend to be designed so that people who only know one fandom can follow them, and they tend to involve a lot of characters explaining their canons to each other.
• Good casefic in the canon style tends to not be super-dependent on a lot of canon knowledge any more than stand-along canon cases are, and a well-done self-contained plot can carry a lack of character knowledge.

Can anyone think of good examples or counterexamples? Or other ideas of things that might make something better or worse as a don't-need-canon fic?

Comments

[doranwen]

Seconding that request - I'd like to read that!

[dragoness_e]

Sansûkh by determamfidd at: https://archiveofourown.org/works/855528/chapters/1637607

[doranwen]

Thanks. :) Though I didn't realize it was partly movie-based from your description… I'm strongly a LOTR book fan (and to some extent a Hobbit book fan as far as it ties into greater history), minorly a LOTR film fan (I prefer the Red Book fanedits, lol), absolutely not a Hobbit film fan whatsoever (haven't even seen those films - what I heard about them was enough to tell me I was not going to enjoy them). (Still appreciate your effort in digging up the link.)

[dragoness_e]

Speaking as an old Tolkien fan who thinks PJ did not really understand Tolkien's themes when he was making his movies, and also being aware that the Hobbit movies were totally screwed over by Executive Meddling and were Not Good as a result:

The one nice thing about the Hobbit movies is the characterization of the dwarves. For the movies, they were made visually distinct with individual personalities; the Hobbit book, sad to say, was a little bit weak in that department--most of the dwarves were not memorable. Sansûkh incorporates movie characters and events way better than the Hobbit movies themselves did. It also ignores some of the really stupid lore-mangling that happened in the Hobbit movies (no Nazgûl tombs, no Gandalf/Galadriel implied relationship, etc).

ETA: the first Hobbit movie did a good job at the beginning with "An Unexpected Party". It went downhill somewhat after that.

[doranwen]

I agree with you about PJ for sure. He really missed the whole point of a lot of it. :/

*winces at some of the lore-mangling examples* I hadn't even *heard* of those. I had enough with the addition of Tauriel (I love female characters but I'm too much of a purist in LOTR to change the storyline like that) and the sled-pulling rabbits just made me roll my eyes and confirmed my decision not to watch (I also had a friend who knew how I approached LOTR and knew that I wouldn't want to see it from her experience of it). Plus I had a lot of respect for what I'd heard of Viggo Mortenson and could read between the lines with his response to being asked to be in them (never mind the timeline issues). Sadly, it does mean that I've felt that I can't really read Hobbit fic anymore, because I really want ones that don't have a bit of movie tint to them, and most fic is tagged as both. So I pretty much stick to LOTR, when I read that fandom (I get into it in bursts - these days I've been heavily into Rookie Blue but I keep up with a few WIPs that are periodically updated and I'm sure to get back to reading a bunch of it again at some point - still a ton of HASA fics I intended to download and re-read now that they're easy to download).

Yeah, there's definitely a difference between the Hobbit writing and LOTR - you can tell he wrote the Hobbit as a "children's story", focusing on the plot and only the most important chars, and didn't flesh them all out the same way as he did when he got serious about LOTR. (Though LOTR suffers from too many characters to flesh everyone out fully, which is where you get tons and tons of different characterizations for a character which gets maybe two lines about them in the text if you're lucky - which I actually kind of like - it makes it almost like reading infinitely many fandoms that all are spokes of the same wheel, if that makes sense.)