Hidden Treasure Subgenres
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I'm going back through old favorite fics and bookmarking, and I have discovered two subgenres of comfort fic that I really, really love, and will read in any fandom or pairing, even ones I actively avoid otherwise:
1. What I am calling "art kink", where the fic is mostly about the characters' relationships to their own art, and most of the major sensual moments are about art (to the point sex scenes feel less intense), and sometimes even the main 'ship is kind of subordinate to the story about the artist(s) and their art.
Random old!fic examples:
Steinway!verse by toomuchplor, Inception
The only John Wayne Left In this Town by gyzym, MCU
Any given Dirty Dancing fusion, probably
2. What I am calling Vacation!Fic, where our characters are on a break from everyday life and instead go somewhere beautiful to rest (and recover). This can be beach!fic or roadtrip!fic or snowed in at the ski lodge!fic (a very specific subset of Canadian Shack) or it can be, like, about a character dropping out of life to surf full-time, but it has a deep sense of place and a feeling of being slowed down and voluntarily separate from worries and stress.
Random old(ish) fic examples:
Ordinary Life by Astolat and Speranza, SGA (SGA was a very good fandom for these)
Lee Shore by JumpingJackFlash, Homestuck
The Lucky Ones by Screamlet, Check Please!
But I have also realized as I go through and tag that, while both of these subgenres are really well-defined in my mind, and have their own subtropes and everything - and based on my AO3 reading history, they've been that way for awhile - neither of them is something that really gets talked about or tagged for in a way that would make them easy to find or talk about or even request.
So I have two questions:
What are your bulletproof subgenres of fic that don't have a standard name or a tag or a category but are definitely a thing anyway?
What would you rec in those subgenres (my subgenres, or yours, or someone else in the comments's)?
1. What I am calling "art kink", where the fic is mostly about the characters' relationships to their own art, and most of the major sensual moments are about art (to the point sex scenes feel less intense), and sometimes even the main 'ship is kind of subordinate to the story about the artist(s) and their art.
Random old!fic examples:
Steinway!verse by toomuchplor, Inception
The only John Wayne Left In this Town by gyzym, MCU
Any given Dirty Dancing fusion, probably
2. What I am calling Vacation!Fic, where our characters are on a break from everyday life and instead go somewhere beautiful to rest (and recover). This can be beach!fic or roadtrip!fic or snowed in at the ski lodge!fic (a very specific subset of Canadian Shack) or it can be, like, about a character dropping out of life to surf full-time, but it has a deep sense of place and a feeling of being slowed down and voluntarily separate from worries and stress.
Random old(ish) fic examples:
Ordinary Life by Astolat and Speranza, SGA (SGA was a very good fandom for these)
Lee Shore by JumpingJackFlash, Homestuck
The Lucky Ones by Screamlet, Check Please!
But I have also realized as I go through and tag that, while both of these subgenres are really well-defined in my mind, and have their own subtropes and everything - and based on my AO3 reading history, they've been that way for awhile - neither of them is something that really gets talked about or tagged for in a way that would make them easy to find or talk about or even request.
So I have two questions:
What are your bulletproof subgenres of fic that don't have a standard name or a tag or a category but are definitely a thing anyway?
What would you rec in those subgenres (my subgenres, or yours, or someone else in the comments's)?
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Date: 2019-05-18 01:52 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-18 05:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-18 02:41 am (UTC)I think one of the odder things I tag for in my bookmarks that isn't frequently discussed as a theme/genre is water related stuff. I don't know why I like it or why I feel the need to collect it together in a tag but I do and it makes me happy.
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Date: 2019-05-18 05:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-21 12:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-18 02:45 am (UTC)I can't really come up with recs off the top of my head; I'd have to think about it. Most of the times I can think of that really hit my buttons were back in Stargate fandom, though it's a thing in MCU and some others as well.
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Date: 2019-05-18 05:29 pm (UTC)It's also tough because usually the codependent people *are* the main cast, so bringing a new person in usually means an OC/crossover character/AU, and those are always tricky.
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Date: 2019-05-18 06:38 pm (UTC)YMMV, but in the versions I mainly enjoy, it's usually either a new-ish canon love interest or someone else in the cast who just isn't part of the main group. The version where I first encountered it enough to realize that I liked it was in SGA when people would focus on Keller in Keller/Rodney stories, and specifically on Keller making friends with Rodney's team, or with John specifically. There are several other canons where I've run into it since (or realized I'd run into it before), often with villain/hero pairings where a big part of the story focus is on the new villain love interest having to get to know the team and deal with their distrust that s/he is going to break Hero Character's heart.
You saying this about OCs/crossovers makes me realize that I have those categorized completely differently, because for me the appeal of this kind of story is mainly about building up connections within the main group that you never actually got in canon (someone who's a relatively minor part of the cast, or in a different general section of the cast, getting accepted into the main group). It's a slightly different kind of outside POV than the outside POV of an OC or someone else who canonically doesn't know the team at all.
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Date: 2019-05-18 02:51 am (UTC)I went looking for those stories for her and was much annoyed to find out that there's no tag, not even a set of tags, that works to find them.
She also adores, "characters from canon visit our 'real' universe."
For myself, I love fics that have a twist that puts all of canon in a new perspective. This includes "he was a vampire all along!" but also "they were secretly married" and "actually, the protagonists were the villains." But that may be too broad a genre. (Too bad; we could call it "Everything You Know About Canon Is Wrong.")
Examples:
Nocturne by Tira Nog (Harry Potter, HP/SS)
Through the Glass by dentalfloss (MCU)
A Way So Familiar by Teland (DCU Comicsverse)
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Date: 2019-05-18 05:34 pm (UTC)You'd think with the prevalence of "and they were roommates!" and "and there was only one bed!" as the slash cliches these days, finding ones for your daughter would be easier! But I can see how it would be tough especially if you're looking for non-ship-focused ones - I gave up at a young age and just learned to filter the good bits out of the ships, but I didn't know about all the other options at here age. There is AU-Roommates and AU-Neighbors but that doesn't really capture the trope when it really is mostly about sharing spaces. I have gone through phases where I really want, like "AU intentional communities" and those are tough to find too, even in fandoms where "they start a commune together" is a pretty obvious trope.
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Date: 2019-05-18 06:00 pm (UTC)...The biggest difference between AO3's tagging, and what inspired it (Delicious collapsing), is that Delicious was tagged by readers, not authors. And they were tagged by multiple readers with different focuses - the same fic might be tagged for relationships and kink in one place, and tagged for AU setting somewhere else, and specific sex acts in a third listing. Authors often don't notice all the details someone might be looking for, or they just don't want to spend twenty minutes writing two dozen tags for a 2,000-word fic.
I think I want to nudge AO3 into making their bookmark searching more robust. As far as I can tell, you can't even sort them by fandom.
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Date: 2019-05-19 08:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-19 05:53 pm (UTC)AO3's bookmarks are supposed to be for general fannish things, not just fics at AO3, but very few people use them, and the feature set is poor. (I don't blame them for that; they've been focusing on the fic features, and those are important.)
Recently I've been noticing how very much I miss Painless J's rec lists.
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Date: 2019-05-18 04:30 am (UTC)The fic was: Seen a Million Faces (but I've been waiting for you) by Hyeyu, Haikyuu!!
A popular genre I've recently started to like is friends to lovers, and I've always loved AUs, and a subgenre that combines them that I sometimes really like and sometimes am ambivalent about is childhood friends getting put into a meetcute AU. Because then they don't have their touching history! But they have an immediate connection and it feels like they've known each other forever!
A comfortfic staple for me is comedy of errors involving superhero secret identities.
Another is slice-of-life feeling stories about developing relationships that describe the small gestures and surprises as characters learn to make space for each other in one another's lives. Or really any fic that has these moments.
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Date: 2019-05-18 05:38 pm (UTC)Of course, at some point most stories about someone who really loves their work end up being stories about art one way or another, even it it's the art of cat burglary or whatever. (And I guess there are other competence kink stories that are just about getting to see the person be really good at their job - just the satisfaction of things falling into place and being done right - that don't focus as much on the relationship of the person to the work - and that don't really overlap the same way.) interesting!
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Date: 2019-05-18 04:35 am (UTC)It even has a name!
Here's a couple of fics of this type that came to mind:
untitled - Hockey fic where a pregnant guy is embarrassed about his loss of bladder control
I wanna fit inside you - Hockey fic where guy has an oviposition kink (and is also into his sister)
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Date: 2019-05-18 05:43 pm (UTC)I'm not super into shame qua shame (I get embarrassment squick so it's tricky) but I am 100% there for "there was this thing about myself that I thought I'd always have to hide and now I've found people who will celebrate it with me."
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Date: 2019-05-18 05:09 am (UTC)Oh wait, I do have one, it's very specific though and totally unsearchable. I have no clue how to even describe it except that MCU Bucky recovers a sense of self and builds a new life. Of if that can be generalized to other characters.
Copperbadge's The Silver Age
https://archiveofourown.org/series/353996
Owlet's Infinite Coffee and Protection Detail
https://archiveofourown.org/series/195689
Yes! Unexpected life changes and building a different life, because this one hits it hard too.
SpaceAnJL's The Paladin Protocol
https://archiveofourown.org/works/432888
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Date: 2019-05-18 05:47 pm (UTC)My ur-example is this long Buffy fic I've never been able to find again where Spike (post-soul) is just like I've had enough apocalypses and leaves Sunnydale to be a poetry teacher at a community college, and Buffy goes looking for him and when he won't come back or talk to her, signs up for his poetry class, then slowly realizes she is allowed to just live in a quiet little town and be content if she wants that, too.
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Date: 2019-05-18 06:16 pm (UTC)I recall some Harry Potter fics that seem to fit, but I'm having trouble finding links. I read Harry/Snape, and there's both "Harry was captured and tortured by Death Eaters until Snape rescues him, but it takes a long time for Harry to realize this is a rescue and not just Snape wanting a pet of his own," and "Snape is found guilty after the war, thrown in Azkaban or just tortured by people in general, until he's bonded to Harry 'for his own safety' and" etc. etc.
There's also a whole lot of "Snape believes he's worthless and mostly evil and nobody could ever willingly tolerate his presence, much less fall in love with him," which has similar feels.
I remember Black Story by Jay Tryfanstone being one of these, but I haven't read it since before AO3 existed.
Robins and Other Flightless Birds by Ionaperidot (DCU-Batfamily) involves various Robins recovering from canon (or AU-canon) traumas and slowly reclaiming themselves.
I think there's some amnesia fics that fall into this, too, but looking for them at AO3 gets me twenty opened tabs of things I start to read the first few paragraphs and don't want to stop.
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Date: 2019-05-18 10:58 pm (UTC)Here's the only example I've been able to find at AO3; you don't need to know the fandom.
Meeting for Robots, by songofsunset
https://archiveofourown.org/works/12919731
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Date: 2019-05-19 02:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2019-05-19 08:02 am (UTC)I also like fics that realistically deal with trauma that canon *doesn't* - and you can't just search for "trauma recovery" or anything like that (assuming the author even tagged for it) because you'd get everything and a half. I'm talking about canons (Rizzoli & Isles, anyone?) which have their characters kidnapped or held at gunpoint and the next episode they're back to normal - I absolutely love stories which deal with the aftereffects, but it's more specific than just "episode related" or anything like that. So maybe that counts?
Anyway, I should also mention that other than a handful of larger fandoms, most of my favorites are small enough that I've read (or deliberately chose not to read based on tags) every fic in the fandom, so it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference - and I almost never read fics in fandoms I don't know. I have to know the fandom first.
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Date: 2019-05-19 12:27 pm (UTC)I love a well written moment of epiphany, doesn't matter what although it's wonderful if it's the emotional heart of the story. I tried to find a Community story where Annie and Abed are in the Dreamatorium and Annie is not getting it and then from one moment to the next she does. It was so beautifully written. I can't believe I don't have it bookmarked.
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Date: 2019-05-19 10:18 pm (UTC)I also like stories in which my boys are quietly pining but *getting on with their lives*, not sitting around moping like sulky teenagers. And they are hiding the pining well, but—and this is important—they aren't mind-bogglingly stupid about recognising that the feelings are requited, when signs appear. I don't like mind-bogglingly stupid.
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Date: 2019-05-19 11:32 pm (UTC)I am lucky in that trope subversion at least is occasionally, if inconsistently tagged, but it's really the meta-discussion of tropes through fic that is the interesting thing? Like "why do we find this interesting/sexy/etc, and how does that reflect on humanity as it actually exists?" And boy howdy, "trope subversion" does not really cover that...
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Date: 2019-05-20 05:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-03-07 03:37 pm (UTC)Detailed recs here